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VIENNA GIRARDI AND JAKE PAVELKA HAVE BROKEN UP TWICE!!

Posted by Adam

Tuesday July 6, 2010

Jake Pavelka and Vienna GirardiVIENNA Girardi has revealed that she and former fiance Jake Pavelka have broken up twice before.

The former couple — who split last month, with Vienna claiming it was because Jake didn’t want to have sex with her — were interviewed together by Chris Harrison on last night’s episode of The Bachelorette.

“We’ve broken up twice,” Vienna replied when asked why the pair hadn’t amicably decided to separate when they realized the relationship was failing.

“I’ve given the ring back twice and [Jake] promised me both times it was going to change.

“[He said he would] try harder, try to kiss me more, act like [he] wanted to be with me and nothing changed.”

Pavelka responded by accusing Girardi of “throwing little temper tantrums and taking the ring off” before Girardi interrupted to insist that they did break-up twice.

“She would test me and take the ring off and go sit and sulk in the bathroom waiting for me to go in and chase her,” he said. “It was a game.”

Vienna recently explained why she went to the tabloids following her split from Jake.

“I know Jake and I knew that as soon as we broke up he was going to run to a media outlet and tell his side of the story,” she said.

“I wanted to make sure I had a voice also. I haven’t had a voice this entire time.”

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  • Cindy

    I think that Jake is still in the closet.

    • daniel.e

      there are some nice pictures of vienna’s bare titties posted at http://urloo.com/QHi0

      • John

        Alice, I hope you have better taste in men, He proved he is controlling. he even said durring the interview He got mad because 1 she used a gps after he told her where to go…and Threw the gps.. Controling…2 he got mad that she suggested turning the furniture in thier bed room. Im sure there where a million more but i only watched 5 mins and said this is stupid…If you have not problem with men telling you to shut up and do as he says that maybe you could contact jake onlything he is missing is a wife beater t shirt and a budwieser

    • Alice

      I think Jake is straight, but come on Vienna will say or do whatever to look like the victim. Jake will find true love soon. Vienna is the one who startes those rumors of him being gay, he just didn’t want to be with her anymore that was that. Jake deserves so much better than that whore.

      • alycam

        Alice, are you for real or a troll? If you honestly think Jake is innocent here & sweet you’re a joke yourself. He will never find true love. Vienna verbalized herself well & was angry for the way Jake played her. He said nothing b/c he had nothing. He was emotionless just like she said. I think he is evil. anal retentive. & most definitely a conniving (sp?) liar.
        I thought Vienna stood up for herself. The truth is V will find true love & someone much better then Jake. Don’t be fooled Alice. I’m scared for you on who you date or who you married. You’re blind ;)

      • Lyric

        Vienna can just get lost…Jake did the right thing.

    • http://yahoo.com Georgie

      I couldn’t agree more. I was thinking the exact thing that he is still in the closet. I think it is great that Vienna came forward and told her side. I actually believe her that Jake was abusive to her and controlling. It is obvious he has a temper problem. Face it, he used Vienna and he is all out for himself. It is obvious that no woman would be right for him. Remember that weird family he comes from? That Mother looked as though she was straight from the 1950s. Jack is a loser. Vienna wanted the fame but I think she is more honest. She is right, that if she hadn’t come out with her side, Jake would have.

    • laxmom

      I agree!!!!!

    • Bernadette

      I agree!!

  • Katie

    Vienaa is white trash and not very attractive…even kinda horse like.

    Jake has options and respects his penis too much to stick it in her giant galapogis.

    • Linda

      What a stupid comment. Get a life.

  • Thomas

    How does Katie know that Vienna (sausage) has a big fat snatch.

    He probably did her once or twice and realized that the bitch is gross.

    • Linda

      Thomas, you must be gay too.

  • Sarah

    Jake was lying through his big ole teeth last night, everyone could see that. As far as she goes, I believe that she thought she had a gold mind….and when that didn’t happen, both started to blame each other. Love can not be found on a reality show…..sorry

    • Miriam

      I am sorry but I saw the show last night with my husband, and Vienna was terrible. She never let the guy talk, no wonder Jake didn’t want to stay with her. She is a terrible person, I hope Jake finds a real nice girl to marry, she was not it at all.

      • Linda

        Miriam, you must be blind. Jake is a condecending control freak with a bad temper – and he’s gay. He proved that during the interview!

    • Cindy

      I think Jake was lying also. It sounded like Vienna had instigated the break-up but he wanted to take credit for it. Come on Folks, grow up. However, his first clue that Vienna was going to be a problem was when her father told him that Vienna was a “princess” and he should treat her as such.

      • Linda

        Every father wants their daughter to be treated like a princess. What planet are you from?

    • John

      Love can be found anywhere, the chances maybe slim on a tv show but where are the chances high? thanks for your opinion

  • Sylvia

    I think Vienna did herself a favor by leaving Mr. “I’m In Charge And Don’t Undermind Me”! What I saw and felt were definite future emotional abuse toward Vienna. Seems one must cower before “The King”. Fool…he showed his true colors last night on TV! (I knew when Jake didn’t get the girl (Gillian) on past The Bachelorette …he cried! I thought then that he was a drama queen.

    • Linda

      Well said, Sylvia.

  • Sarah

    I hear Kate Gosselin is looking for a “man”…..says she is “lonely”…..maybe ole Jakie should go and visit her and shut her the hell up.

    • John

      I think they would kill eachother

  • http://yahoo Patty

    Though I was never a big fan of Vienna I beleive her side of the story over Jake’s. I think Jake is a liar, famewhore (as Vienna called him) and has a bad temper. The couple should have never been together in the first place and at least now it is over and we can all move on to the next Bachelor break-up!

  • TheBride

    My my. This is shocking.

  • Wendy

    If you watched the show I had not picked Vienna for Jake in the first place. She doesn’t know how to present herself in a way that people with that much fame do. From the Show her parent seemed to have spoiled her in the first place and she has alway gotten what she wants. SHE’S A SPOILED BRAT!

    • Linda

      She had no “fame” before the show, dumb dumb.

  • NICOLE

    IM GLAD VIENNA HAD THE COURAGE TO LEAVE DESPITE THE BACKLASH OF IGNORANCE SHE KNEW WOULD COME FROM THE BREAK UP.. JAKE HAS ISSUES AND ANYONE ONE WHO FALLS FOR A GIRL THE WAY HE DID AND IMMEDIATELY PUSHES HER A WAY NEEDS HELP, HE IS “FAKE JAKE” AND HE NEEDS TO DO SOME SOUL SEARCHING. ANOOTHER THING, EVERYONE ONE CALLING VIENNA WHITE TRASH IS FROM THE SAME WASTE BASKET!

    • Kambri

      Yes Vienna, we know it is you going on these sites and just boosting yourself. I spoke to 36 girls here at work and we all voted Vienna you are the loser, Jake deserves better than a woman like you, Thank God he finaly dump you. Jake baby you will find the right girl. Poor Jake I felt so sad for him having to sit and not being able to get a word in, shame on you Vienna he is a great guy and you messed it up.

      • John

        What are you ten? To pull something out of jakes bag of tricks “SHUT UP”….doesnt quite sound the same coming from someone without fame

    • Jewel

      All 37 of you are stupid little girls, who are still in the mind-frame of “He is so dreamy”. Grow up!!!! Jake is a liar, he has been lying since the beginning. He is a famewhore and is only interested in becoming famous. He is verbally abusive and you can tell he was holding back because he was on camera. Plus, I didn’t really appricaite the way the host kept only ask her the belittling questions as if he didn’t believe her much either. What an a/hoe!!!! You are supposed to be bias, or a least a gentleman. Vienna didn’t have a chance she was sorrounded by a/hoes last night.

      • Danko

        Oh My!!…… Everyone just need to shut up and stop defending both of them! They both wanted the fame! Why else would Vienna go to the tabloids?! FOR FAME! Why did Jake choose Vienna?! FOR FAME! Why where they both on The Bachelor?! FOR FAME! I’m not saying the two did not actually have a relationship, I’m saying that this was bound to happen. They are both fakes they are both liars, and they are both stupid! I mean if Jake did go on The Bachelor to fins true love, how did he expect to do it if he had to date a large number of women at the same time? And how did Vienna expect to find the right man if that “right man” had to date a bunch of different women at the same time? Both are famewhore. Last night Vienna kept on interrupting Jake because she did not want her image to be ruined, and Jake used that to try to make it seem like he is innocent, both their stories are lies no one will ever know the truth.

  • Robin

    I believe Jake totally. Most of us could have told him he picked the wrong girl months ago. Almost NOBODY liked Vienna, including Jake’s family. They should have stuck with their original assessment of the bi…!! I do hope this is the end of their saga. I wonder if Jake is calling Tenley about now???

    • Boo Boo

      You are attracted to the WRONG men. He is abusive and controlling……Wake up.

  • lynn

    Vienna is a liar and a spoiled brat. If you paid any attention to what came 9out of her own mouth you know she is a liar. Chris (the host) ask her several times if she wanted to go home to Florida (after she claimed that was the reason she was unhappy), to just end all the tabloid “he said she said,” and after she blaimed everrything on Jake for being in LA. Then she claims everybody in heer small hometown haturned their backs on her. No wonder the way she acts! She is a liar and it came right out of her own mouth. She is a spoiled brat who needs to grow up and get a job and act like an adult instead of blaming everyone else for her bratty ways.

    • Boo Boo

      SHe wanted to go to FLA WITH him, NOT with her tail between her legs. She can do anything she wants.

      • Kambri

        Vienna is that YOU? are you so pathetic you are posting comments to defend yourself on blogs? I bet you are, what a loser, America doesn’t like you, we all know Jake was a fool for choosing you. I hope he finds the right girl now, he is a sweet guy and you are a tramp.

      • Boo Boo

        Darlin, Jake is an arrogant d*uche bag. Vienna was genuine in that interview. He was a controlling as*. Why don’t you find him and blow him, twit.

  • http://yahoo hub

    She made the cry baby look like a fool..Im surprised he didnt burst into tears..I dont like either of them but she did come off better than cry baby..If I ever board another Southwest plane the first think I will ask the attendent is if cry baby Jake is flying it..Wouldnt want him to get mad and have a crying fit at 30000 feet..

    • http://yahoo mike

      yes Jenifer,

      so true! he is a JERK and I am so sure by the way he treated her on the show last nite he was and can be very abusive! she is to good for him!

      Mike L. K.

    • Sylvia

      Lol….at “hub”….yep cry baby (big Drama Queen)!

  • Jennifer

    All these women defending Jake are exactly the types who probably get abused by their boyfriends or husbands. Anyone with half a brain and an ounce of self esteem saw him for the bully he was. You don’t have to be a Vienna fan to see that Jake is a tool bag narcissist.

    • Vanessa

      I like both of them. I feel really bad for both Jake and Vienna. It is unfortunate that the moment the camera’s quit rolling. They realized neither one had anything in common and no means to pay bills. It was strictly a lustful relationship. This is what happens in most cases when people jump in the sheets right away. Then all the resentment follows. You can tell, it seems neither one have God in their lives.She wanted stablity and he wants to be famous. They found out quick how nothing is what it seems in L.A.

    • Boo Boo

      I worked with women who got stuck with guys like him. He has the ability to damage the self -esteem of a woman who may be even a little vunerable.

  • Just a Single Guy

    I didn’t like “Fake Jakes” pick when he chose Virgin Vienna back in the day. I am, however glad he didn’t pick the current Bachleorette, because she does seem genuine.
    Jake struck me as an arrogant turd who needs his ass kicked. He’d give me that Crap eating grin one time and it would be knocked to the other side of his face. In the interview last night (yes I’m guilty), Vienna’s emotion seemed raw and real. Fake Jake sat there, stone cold straight faced posing and lying. So obvious. It’s funny how layers get peeled back as time goes on. Not just on TV, but applicable in real life. Can you really fall in love in 2 or 3 months before the first layer has been revealed?
    We saw Jakes first layer. I couldn’t imagine what else there is subsurface. Atleast with Virgin Vienna we saw all of hers from the beginning.

  • http://att.net Wanda

    I think they both are looking for “fame” and neither or grown up.

  • Just a Single Guy

    @Wanda – But atleast its evident with Virgin Vienna. Fake Jake the Snake….. is a slimey toolbag and wants to be on TV, hence “dancing with the stars”. AND NO, I’m not jelous. I just recognize stink when I smell it.

    • Boo Boo

      AGREED, HE’S A CLASSIC POWER AND CONTROL FREAK, NO MATTER HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT VIENNA. MAYBE THIS WAS HER KARMA, BUT HE’S SICK!

  • Lee

    I totally believe Vienna. Jake gave himself away last night just by the way he treated her in the interview. Jake reminds me of my ex husband… and guess what? He turned out to be GAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Vienna thank GOD you left his dumb as*s!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • P.Zapf

    I thought Vienna was too immature for Jake. She is just too young. Seems like most times an older man wants a young woman like that for appearance sake. It makes him look good, he thinks to have her on his arm. The problem is I think he thinks he can control her and be in charge of everything. These days women are learning a relationship does not have to be like that and I think therin may lay the problem with this couple.
    I do believe Vienna on the episode last night. I did not particularly like her before because there has too be some basis for so many people not liking her. That is not coincidence. But it looks like Jake was not sincere so its best they both get out of it right now. Its a shame its such a public display.

  • Janice

    I agree with Sylvia. I have lived life long enough to recognize a person who has control issues. What I saw last night was the behavior of a very emotionally abusive, controlling person. Theretofore, I had really liked Jake and thought he was a “nice guy”, and I did not like Vienna. I was prepared to believe that the breakup was her fault. To my surprise, the evidence showed otherwise. Vienna’s behavior, on the other hand, indicated sheer frustration with and pain from Jake’s uncommunicative and controlling behavior. Sylvia picked out the correct phrases. One very telling one was don’t “undermine me”. Jake also seemed to have no compassion for a woman whom he had claimed he passionately loved just a few months ago. He sat there like a stone statue. Moreover, he did not seem to want to allow her to speak. This is all so completely indicative of a controlling personality. I have known men EXACTLY like that. I say, Alli and the other women dodged a HUGE bullet. Be glad, Honey, that he did not allow you to return when you had wanted to. YOU would have been sitting in that chair last night, and the result would have been no different.

    • Boo Boo

      I completely agree with you. I even went in thinking the same thing, but knowing he was also arrogant. Vienna was not acting. He is NOT marriage material.

      • Kambri

        Vienna is the one who no one will marry after what they saw in that interview last night.

      • Boo Boo

        Kambri, you need a shrink……….

  • Boo Boo

    I’m a social worker and he was lying like a sheet. He’s cocky and self centered. He Dno YSPLAYED NO emotion. I have no doubt he was psycholocially abusive. He was emotionally abusive on the show last night. Now he is exposed for the narcissistic freak he is. He is sexist and machismo (UH……VERY NOT MODERN DAY): “He kept talking about respect”. F HIM.

    DIAGNOSIS: DOU*HEBAG! PS: THOSE PRODUCERS NEED TO GET COMPETENT PSYCHOLOGISTS TO SCREEN THESE PEOPLE OR THEY WILL HAVE A LAWSUIT SOMEDAY. I SEE IT COMING.

  • Jane

    Jake is a verbally abusive son of a pup. Vienna is the real deal.. She was not acting. I know how frustrating it is for a man to want you, talk a good game, parade you to friends and family, and then when you are alone nothing happens. NO intimacy, no candor, no support, no hug, nothing physical… and worse yet no sex… they make the same excuses.. tired, fasting, not in the mood, etc… but the bottom line is they are gay. Jake is gay. It is evident, and I hope he comes out soon and ends his charade. His abruptness and cruelty to Vienna was not surprising. He is 32 she is 23. She is just a child but he is now a grown up man. Vienna’s daddy should give Fake Jake a scoldin’ If this was Tenley he did it too…nobody would stand for it.. but since Vienna has the party girl persona people think she deserves it! Wake up World! No women DESERVE to be ABUSED! Vienna was treated like crap, all she wanted what was promised to her.

  • 2muchDrama

    Jake is gay watch you will see he will come out of the closet when everyone has forgotten about him. Yup I thought it was all for show when he cried for Jillian last season he had it all planned he wanted to be the next Bachelor and now that he had his chance in getting in the spotlight in Hollywood he can give a crap of Vienna I dont think he ever loved her just wanted to get noticed. But there is always 2 sides of the story I dont think she is as innocent as she appears to be nobody has ever really liked her from the beginning Karma is a biatch baby. But I also think she does regret everything and she did seem heartbroken and for some odd reason I believe her and not Jake whatever theyre both losers. I cant believe Im actually wasting my time writing this.

  • Marty

    Vienna wasn’t my first choice,but I never wanted Jake to be the Bachelor.I believe Jake used emotional abuse he would do anything to get his way.He looked like a crazy man when he came back on the Bachelorette,he just turns those tears on and off like a light.His a LIAR,FAMEWHORE,who will never have a real WOMAN just like Vienna said…….

  • Annie

    I think they are both “fame whores” as she calls it. Why else would you go on such a stupid show in the first place? No, I’ve never watched the show because I think the idea of it is stupid…but who needs to watch it? It has been deemed “newsworthy” so we all hear about every little thing anyway. When I saw him on a show, now knowing who he was, I will say I thought he was gay (and I do not think there’s anything wrong with that) so was surprised to hear he was the “new bachelor.” When I saw her on Ellen, I thought she seemed fake…more like a wanna be actress than someone “looking for a husband.”
    I am hoping they both just GO AWAY and that those insipid shows are cancelled!

  • Jae

    I agree with Jane. Did anyone see the What Would You Do where the ignorant public thought girls that looked or dressed sexy deserved the abuse more than the preppy or proper looking girl? It was DISTURBING!!! Jane is right, if this was Tenley or that lil twerp Ali NOBODY would stand for it. Jake would be blackballed in HOLLYWOOD as well.. But emotional, sexy, vulnerable Vienna gets the idiotic Publics :” She deserves it ” That is horrible. Any no brainer could see the cruelty in Jake. Vienna was REAL, and Jake was all over the place and also had many facial expressions that should lying. Why would a sexy pretty lady like Vienna want to sit in a room all day when her hunky sexy obviously gay fiance struts it around town trying to be an actor?? Then at the end of the day she doesn’t even get a snuggle or a quickie or NUTTIN’? You woke up Vienna.. and you deserve more from a man who claimse to LOVE you…

  • Lucky

    Jake is fake.
    Jake is a snake.
    Jake is a flake.
    Jake wants his cake.
    But now Fake Flake Jake the snake can bake and not get his CAKE.

    • ViennatheWHORE

      Vienna is a slut, Vienna is a whore, Vienna is white trash, Vienna go sleep your way out of this one. We all know, we all knew, you are not a good girl. Jake is not a fake thats why he left your sorry ass. Vienna everyone knows you are the whore.

  • http://yahoo richard

    he is an ass who is seeking stardom. i dont believe he shed an actual tear when he was the bachelor. He cant act!!!!! the show is a waste of time – it should be taken off the air as all the other so called realty shows should be. Also he cant dance either as Kate Gosselin showed also There 15 minutes of fame lasted too long!!!

  • AmyWhite

    To everyone that is really Vienna posting here, they have her on tape with another guy, ABC is suing her and Thank God Jake left you. Jake find a good girl, get married and be happy.

    • Jennifer

      It’s not Vienna posting. It’s women and men with self-esteem and intelligence who can see that Jake is an abusive, self-absorbed bully. You may not like Vienna, but he’s got issues.

  • Patricia

    I was not wild about either one of them, but watching last night’s interview – I believe she was sincere & he’s full of crap!! Although Im not the biggest Vienna or Jake fan, I thought she was sincere and he was a liar liar pants on fire!!

    • ViennatheWHORE

      She was acting, crying like that, not letting him talk, she was just trying to make him look bad. She is a fame whore and wanted money, she sold her interview and he didnt he didnt get paid a cent for his side of the story, that is prove right there that she is the real liar. Vienna just wanted money and a new guy to bed.

  • Mari

    Jake-I was SO disappointed to see your true self revealed-you are quite the ‘ass’ and Vienna was lucky to get out before it was too late-hope the ‘next one’ sees you for how your really are-you fooled alot of us!

  • http://yahoo denise

    ALICE you have no right to call vienna names . i think she is a pretty lady bet she looks better than you I GUESS YOU HAVENT HEARD ABOUT JAKES GIRLFRIEND HE HAD WHEN HE WENT ON THE SHOW HE ASK HE TO NOT SAY ANYTHING VIENNA YOUR CHIN UP GIRL YOUR THE WINNER

  • Gia

    Except for Vienna interrupting so much as she became more frustrated and somewhat hysterical, I believe her. Chris Harrison should have handled that part better but maybe deep down he believed her and wanted her to have that voice. All Jake could do was “accuse”: 1. accused her of cheating, 2. accused her of undermining him. 3. not being supportive. 4. accused her of being lazy. EVERYTHING WAS ABOUT HIM. What he wanted, what he expected – what happened to his “loving understanding compassion” he displayed so readily towards her during the show? He did not and could not refute anything she said because IT WAS ALL TRUE and he had no answers. HE WAS controlling and emotionally abusive and SELFISH AND COLD. He tried to make her look like a sleazy gold digger because he knew people already questioned her motives; he knew picking her from the beginning he was going to do all of this and if he had picked GIA instead – he’d have a harder time convincing the world that it was her fault. This guy is a sociopath. And I seriously think beyond having a “little temper” (who throws a GPS to the back of the car??)it would have eventually erutped into something more physical. He tape measures the furniture for size, fine. But she was trying to be helpful and he felt so “insecure” about that and about using a GPS…this guy has thin skin and has bigtime issues. Didn’t he snap nastily during practices with his dance instructor on Dancing with the STars?? Also, remember when he asked Allie on the show, directly, what was the problem she felt about Vienna, and when she tried to explain by saying Vienna was a little immature, he sliced into her and didn’t really want to hear about it. I thought it was wierd to turn THAT icy on a person you supposedly liked, when afterall you are the one who was asking the question. Then at his parents he kept telling the camera he had told his family about Vienna and they were leery about her but he wanted to give her a chance. Yeah, that’s for posterity sake only – he was trying to look like the “Compassionate guy” giving the girl a chance and he wanted his family to do the same only did you notice how they all went from sort of not liking her to suddenly being OH YES JAKE, WE TOTALLY SUPPORT YOUR DECISION AND JUST LOVE HER NOW. It was very bizarre to watch them all get in line like that in a matter of minutes. I believe this is because with Jake they know he is the one with the “temper tantrums” and when he feels he’s being “underminded” by the women-folk he’ll lash out at them. I think we have only to look as far back as what he did to the other woman he was dating in Florida. He told her that he wanted to the show to get into acting and that when it was done he’d resume their relationship. Well if that was his true intention he only kept one side of that bargain! You have to wonder why a guy like Jake keeps bringing women home to mama but never marries them or take the relationship to the next step. Being a pilot helps keep distance in relationships – I’m sure that was always his intention, no real committment, no real closeness – if he’s gay much of this behavior makes sense but if he’s a psychopath who manipulates to get his way through life, it also makes sense. Not that the two are mutually exclusive but if he’s both – WOW!!
    I never liked Vienna much on the show because she was spoiled and aggressive and let’s face it …she wasn’t one of the prettier girls so why would he pick her out of the others? (like I said above, thats why!)But I have tons more respect for her than Jake and believe at least she could turn this situation around and make something of her life that’s good. This is a woman who though young is a fighter – like her mother said. She’s made mistakes, not perfect but I think at the heart of her she is a decent person more than Jake can ever claim to be. It was sad to watch anyway last night. It wasn’t pretty seeing Vienna meltdown like that and she kept saying he’s mean – no, he’s cold and calculating and still believes the world will think that he’s just a guy who “couldn’t do anything right but he’s wrong. We will see him as a guy who should have known to choose better in the first place but thought he could get out of a relationship he used as a front without taking any responsibility for it. As a guy who has very thin skin, insecure, selfish and cold. A guy who wanted fame and uses people to get what he wants, a callous personality who has deep inferiority issues. I bet there will a few more stories that come out about Jake Pavelka. He may have crafted his persona enough to get by but didn’t bank on Vienna. Hell hath no fury like woman scorned!

    • Vicki

      Gia, I couldn’t have said it better. I agree 100% with everything you said and you just saved me from having to type it all. Well done!!!

    • Sylvia

      Gia, although I tried to pen my feelings earlier today it appears it wasn’t enough……thank you for saying and writing so eloquently about what I saw and felt too!

  • LAYLA

    No wonder Jake wouldn’t touch her, shes a whining
    immature nag and fame whore wouldn’t let the man even speak

    Her reputation precedes her. She emptied out
    her ex husbands bank account while he was
    in the military for implants

    She went to the media for the $90,000 and to
    destroy his career and sold the man out

    For someone who wanted to move to Florida with
    him and can’t stand LA, she sure made a liar
    out of herself there as well

    No man in this country will touch her now
    Shes a whining fame whore nag who would sell out
    her own family given the chance

  • http://sbcglobal.net Rick

    Jake is all about Jake. He didn’t date in high school.He said sex isn’t that important, but to a guy(Jake)who is used to his hand, one would think he would give it a try.Jake is a drama and a back door queen. PLEASE, no more reality shows for either Jake or Vienna.

  • http://showbizspy banana winds

    …..it’s been said that it takes two to Tango, and “both” of them suck at dancing; anyone seeing DWTS can verify that. I think they’re both at fault. They’re both ‘fame’ seekers,(because what good,experienced pilot would give up his job?) and lets not forget everybody and their brother did try to tell Jake about his decision..and now ‘boo-hoo’ hes unhappy about it? Dude you need to own up and admit you were wrong, be the bigger person(you didnt have to go to the tabloids either even if she did) and please get some anger management classes (that public beratement of Vienna no matter what she did, was uncalled for and unacceptable).

    In Vienna’s defense lets not forget she is only 23, and still finding her way in this world if she chooses to do it on her current path, she’ll have her own rewards and she won’t like them. But even if she sulks, and doesn’t argue well, interrupts and throws her ring…hello maturity hasn’t hit her yet guyz..too many oats being sowed in there..still no one should be treated like that..its not an authoritarian regime, and my question is if Mr Pavelka is so foolish to lash out in anger on national TV, in the face of her clear immaturity..then what/how might he lash out in the future?

  • Lisa

    I totally agree with Jae. There is a reason why he picked Vienna. It was all in the plan. There was barely, if any emotion last night from Jake & he didnt have good eye contact. One can tell alot about a person by their body language as to whether they are lying or not & Jake was. Yes, Vienna may be a baby, but I believe she was telling more of the truth than Jake last night. I also believe that Jake is is quite “full of himself” I could even tell that on the show. I’m sure that we will all be hearing more about this other girlfriend that Jake had the whole time during the airing, the one he met on the plane before Bachlorette.

    • Lisa

      Gia REALLY sums it up!!! Good job!!

  • Kelly

    I believe Vienna, pure and simple. Jake had a holier than though attitude. The only thing about her, she never let him get a word in, which made her look bad.

    • http://yahoo mike

      Jerk that that only defines a part of Jake, don’t get me started! my concerns are for Vienna, sweet heart pick your
      self up, give your self a GREAT Laugh you have better things comming your way!

      Best to you,
      Mike L. K.

  • Bobbi

    Instead of trying to have a relationship, Jake–thinking he is Tom Cruise– started acting lessons and did Dancing with the Stars. He has become a Movie Star in his own mind.He promised Vienna that he would love her and treat her like a Queen.
    He is 32 years old, and she is 23 years old—a big gap for a spoiled man, who represented himself as a pilot, and from the looks of things has stopped being one. He has not fulfilled any promise to her, but grabbed the spotlight for himself. Does the word JERK come into your mind.

  • http://yahoo mike

    I think Vienna is a doll! she was just looking for LOVE and did not find it! Jake looks and acts like a premadonna! Vienna is better with out him! he was just into this for his exposure! and I truly did not like the way he treated her! and talked down to her, her heart was
    definately broken! and I wish her the best from the bottom
    of my heart!

    Mike L. K.

  • http://yahoo mike

    you know the more I think about waht he did to Vienna!
    He need his face bashed in!

    Mike L. K.

  • Rene

    I believe Vienna; Jake is an a-hole. I could not believe the way he acted..He think he is better than her and I believe that he was abusive (emotionally for sure) you cannot cover that up at all; his true colors came out. He is a jerk…

  • mark

    shes deserves a total beatdown!!! not physically , shes trash , and all you people need a real life !!!! get put of fantasy land!! you all are just like her , big mouth no class sluts !!!

  • http://ShowbizSpy Donkey’s Neighbor

    Vienna … Run away, run as fast as you can. Even if Jake sat mute at the interview last night, he still would have been branded a controlling “donkey”. We all know you are not an actress … your emotions and tears were real. We believe you. As for Jake … the truth is much stronger than your phony “perfect” personality. At what point will you be able to admit that you are not perfect? Women are beautiful and smart … Controlling men are probably the dumbest men on earth. Women are laughing at you from all sides, only because you think that we think you are perfect. I hope that from your interview last night, that people now truly understand that there are a lot of controlling donkeys out there. Everyone has them in their neighborhood. Everyone has a friend that is dating one or is married to one. Seriously … if it is more important for you to APPEAR like the perfect boyfriend, the perfect husband, the perfect father, the perfect neighbor … at some point your life will come crumbling down. I hope this gives all controlling men “perfect comfort” in knowing that so many women are laughing at you — we know you are not perfect and we want nothing to do with you. Jake, your best bet is to pick your next “perfect” wife from the wax museum in California …

  • Susie

    Please….you guys have to get a life….there are more important things in the world then JAKE and VIENNA…duh…

    OIL SPILL deserves soooo much more attention than these two absolute losers………

    • Charlotte

      well, actually, Jake reminds me of the sociopathic personality types who would be OK with an oil spill, kind of like the men who run BP might be…..think about that babe; get educated and see how we have all allowed these types of people to run amok in this world, breaking hearts and breaking this planet’s crust like shattered glass that can’t be fixed. Yes, it is a dire issue, and it is all connected—-we need to evolve beyond all this, ASAP!

  • jp

    greatest thing ever on the history of TV! Better than the Beatles on Sullivan, the moon landing, etc. I don’t even care if this was scripted if it was (or not). Vienna storms off… Jake is befuddled, bedazzled and bewildered… love how Chris remained the voice of reason. Who needs oil spills and 2 wars when we have these 2 on TV.

  • ana

    umm… wasnt she like scary in love with him?? he thought that since she is so young that he could train her like a little puppy. but he”s right, she does have a mouth on her like every other women does!! he”s a douche bag and i hope his “acting” career goes straight down the shitter!! good for her getting on her feet and trying to make something for herself

  • Quatavias

    Her head has seen more hotel pillows than a chocolate mint. Old florida white thrash

  • Babu

    Oh my we have a winner here. Somebody needs to make a booty call. Viva La Vienna.

  • sue

    Vienna is very young and naive and expected Jake to be at her level, but he’s an older man who wants the beauty and spark of a younger woman but not the emotions of one. They should both date people their own age and temperment and put this relationship behind them. Seems like he could have been more sympathetic to her and it may not have gotten so mean.

  • niki

    Jake is a pilot. I know pilots, I am married to one and around them often. They are arrogant and stuck up and controlling. He was lying like an sob last night. Vienna did interrupt, but rightly so, because he is a selfish man, or gay man. Who knows!! Vienna, you are better off without him. For a woman to want affection and love, there is nothing wrong with that. He went to L.A. and his pilot head got all blown out of proportion. Trust me, he is just a total jerk and an ass.

    • You’re always right

      Leslie, you are right. Jake knew what he was doing and Vienna played along. This is not abuse, it’s called reality tv, aka the new and improved WWE. Don’t hate the players, hate the game.

  • Leslie

    Vienna is the classic case of partner abuse. Jake knew exactly what he was doing in picking Vienna. Jake is clever and knows how to look like the victim.
    Signs of abuse: Get a JOB, but jake was moving around to do shows. Jake to Vienna “It’s your fault.” Always blaming her. She wanted a intimate relationship
    he made it seem as if it was her problem. Jake is scary, hot & cold. “Mentally abusive relationships cause enormous emotional damage to the loving partner who tries, against all odds, to hold the relationship together and, ultimately, can’t do it, because her partner is working against her.” Folks DON”T condemn
    the innocent!

  • tube

    I don’t care for either of them, but Jake proved nearly every word she said las night with his behavior. He seems to not even realize what a jerk he is. He was treating her on the air the way she claimed and I can’t imagine how much worse that must’ve been behind closed doors. I think Jake figured he’d sleaze in there to try to get back with Ali from the Bachelorette. He is a dweeb. Vienna is trashy too, and I really disliked her, but her points were well made. Also think the show has fallen to new lows the way they tried to pressure her into saying she wouldn’t take things farther in the tabloids.

  • sandra

    the other side of jake is pleasant. this side of jake scares me

  • MARY

    BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING! I REMEMBER WHEN VIENNA CAME INTO JAKE’S BEDROOM IN A NIGHTIE AND THE DOOR CLOSED. SHE WAS TRYING TO GET ONE NOTCH-UP ON THE OTHER GIRLS. I THINK THEY BOTH DESERVE EACH OTHER AND ARE PRIME EXAMPLES OF WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WHO BEND THE RULES. SO,,,LET’S NOT FEEL TOO SORRY FOR THEM, THEY JUST SPARED OTHERS FROM CONNECTING WITH THEM. I ONLY HOPE THE SHOW DOESN’T DECIDE TO MAKE VIENNA THE NEXT BACHELORETTE.
    UGH!!

  • Jack Frutti

    Winner winner chicken dinner. Any idea why Vienna keeps posting her angry thought here? This Bachelor lost me for a few years – lately, these shows are getting better with each season. We can see both adults have their peeves. But,yikes, Vienna is out there. Ka-cack!

  • Niki

    Don’t kid yourself people, I wouldn’t doubt fake Jake is posting on here if anything. Most gay men know how to type.

  • Maria

    He is a control freak! You can tell by the comments he made.
    Because he measured the bedroom with his measurment tape
    to fit the bedroom furniture in the proper place than he claims she disrespected me measuring it again….Give me a break..((he has some major ego problems…The public is downing Vienna,,,That is so wrong………………You can tell by her emotions and eyes she was telling the truth. She looked directly into his eyes when speaking. Jake on other hand kept looking around the room…………

  • http://CNN MORNINGWOODY

    Jake is gay.

  • Sydney

    Cindy: Do you think Jake is Gay because he is a cry baby? Or because he won’t make love to Vienna? Or because he poses nude for Play girl, a magazine that Gay guys love! Or because he was making eyes at Bruno, the gay judge on Dancing With The Stars!

    Cindy, maybe Jake should produce & star in a reality show called “THE GAY NUDE BACHELOR”. Cindy, it would be a hit in the Bath Houses!

  • http://msn Anne D

    I think there are a lot of people out there who have no manners at all. If you can’t say something nice than don’t say anything at all. MEAN PEOPLE SUCK BAD!!!!!! Grow up & Shut your mouth!!!! Isn’t there enough ulgyness in the world.

  • Cam

    That whole thing was so fake her running off and crying I mean come on now. It was so sad and the bad part is that the other ladies told him to not pick her and I see why they say it now.

  • Rami Banaag

    I’ve seen the show last night and Vienna is really very intimidating. She interrupt Jake at all times. Jake don’t deserve her. Let her go and find another woman.

  • Sydney

    Maria: Jake is Obessive-Complusive! That is a psychiatric problem that patients take medication for! He is obviously an attention whore! What straight man wants to pose Nude for Play Girl and crys like a baby at the drop of a hat? What straight man runs from sex from a pretty girl like Vienna and quits his pilot job?

    Maria, he has a bunch of problems, more than just being Gay!!

  • http://showbizspy.com Jay

    Sounded like he was a real control freak and there was only room for one his giant ego in the relationship. His star was beginning to fade and he was probably not handling that well since his boot from DWTS. I did not like Vienne from the very beginning but from the interview last night it sounds like he has major issues!! This repetitive use of the phrase “underminding me” reveals his own insecurities. And the fact that he gave up on being a pilot to pursue a career in acting makes me believe her statement that he is a “fame whore” and he would have sold the story too! In fact he did to other magazines. Jake sat there last night like he was so noble and kind and the victim in all this. Chris let him off too easily. LOL…maybe he and Chris should get together.

  • Sydney

    Cam, Vienna has a right to be upset! Jake won’t make love to her or even kiss her! Fake Jake crys more than her!Jake is going to pose for Play Girl. Vienna refuses to pose for Playboy! The other women on the Bachelor would have left Jake sooner! What took Vienna so long!!!

  • Mike

    Wow, most of you people need some observation lessons. I’ll tell you what is going on. Vienna is a spoiled, immature brat who has no respect for Jake. This is obvious in the way that she cut him off everytime he tried to defend himself. It was frustrating to watch. He chose the high road and tried to be a Gentleman. If he behaved like her, they would have been in a screaming match. Instead, she is screaming at him and you say that he is abusive? Seriously, you people are on drugs. She is a nutbag and should probably be medicated.

    Unfortunately, this does not let him off the hook because he is not gay. Very likely, he met someone on Dancing with the Stars and has been cheating the whole time. This is why he doesn’t want to have sex with Vienna. The most logical explanation is usually the correct one. Nutbags have unhappy, cheating fiances, boyfriends, and husbands. Jake’s crime is not being man enough to dump her in the first place instead of leading a charade.

  • Silverfox

    I agree with Rick, only I say no more reality shows PERIOD.
    Yeah, I’m older than all of you and back in the day I watched television. Today I don’t. Between Bachelorette,The Bachelor, Survivor, Lost, Dancing with The Stars and the coming Vampire sensation there is no REAL T.V. It’s all BS and to get wrapped up in the soap opera crap and actually be on the end of your seat really makes me laugh. Go find a Mt. to climb, a stream to fish! I had a wonderful friend from Canada who loved life, sports and his wife and family more than most and he used to say we put T.V. stars, movie stars and the like on a pedestal to worship.In Canada they worship their athletes. I haven’t watched one minute of any of the “reality” shows and to all of you I say GET A LIFE. To Vienna, whom I know nothing about and could care less, if you want to have sex I know there are a lot of guys out there that will accommodate you.I know sex is an important part of marriage and after 39 years I still pursue it every chance I get.Just looking at the picture of Vienna and Jake, and that is all I have bothered to look at. I see a young man who probably had his smirkey face smacked a lot all the way through school. Just my opinion….Take care all, I’m off to the Mountains and Boo Boo you really need to get away from your computer and get out in the Sun…SF CO

  • sandra

    wow…. i can not believe that people are for vienna, did you watch the bachelor???? all of those women who hated her from the start were right on the money. Jakes first mistake was choosing this looser to start with. She is the one still in the closet but nor for her sexuality instead for the truth. She wants the attention, she wants to be the victim, she wants!she wants! she wants! she made it all about her not letting him talk and if any of you against Jake on here think that you would not have gotten pissed off then get off your high horse and come out of the reality closet. Jake is just as imperfect as the rest of us but in this matter Vienna is the syco chick who wants all the attention. What a baby

  • sandra

    i like mikes comments… nutbagss… yea he found someone else and why not vienna is a cry baby

  • patti

    I totally agree with Gia. He had no intention of staying with her…..how perfect for him, the world hated her thanks to Ali….she also is a user!

  • sandra

    BOO BOO, if you are a social worker than what the hell are you doing on here making the comments that you are making… your a nutt job. I think the one person who said you are really Vienna trying to defend yourself is correct your just a syco nuttjob. Glad you lied about being a social worker because it is obviouse that you dont have half a brian

  • Janet

    These 2 were NOT meant to be 2-gether in the 1st place. Her family had spoiled their little “princess” & his family did NOT like her either. She NEVER let him get in a word & he finally lost it, so that was clue # 1. I think she thought she was going to travel & do all the stuff like they did on the show–, NOT to be. + I dont think she wanted to work , even tho she claims to have a job now. But she does not like LA, so I bet her current boss did not like that she said she didn’t like LA. + not wanting to go home for the reason that every-1 turned their back on her– oh come on !!! They were probly ready to get rid of her. And tell me WHEN does Jake work thru all this ??? I can’t see any airline letting him off that much to do all he has done. Simply put, he went for the WRONG girl ALL along & not for the right reasons. Why dont they just get on w/ their life & find some-1 else. This is WAY too much DRAMA to find love !!!

  • Jujubee

    I thought I was the only one that thought Vienna looked like a horse. NOT GOOD!

  • Bob

    I hate to admit it, but that was great T.V. last night. It actually changed my mind. I was always surprised that he chose Vienna, and figured she was to blame. My wife was the same way. After watching that – holy mackeral!! Jake is not at all what he pretended to be. First off, I have a pretty good B.S. detector (translated, can tell who’s lying), and I thought clearly he lied more than she, by a long shot. He was putting her down! He showed very jealous tendancies. I never figured he was the type with a temper, and clearly he was. She hurt herself by getting paid to tell her side of things, and then by talking over him, but she’s barely out of her teens. He’s in his thirties. I went into last night with the opposite attitude. However, I can admit – I WAS WRONG! He’s the kind of man that gives us all a bad name.

  • Happily Married

    This is HILARIOUS! I knew if he picked the sausage girl it wouldn’t last 6 months, and it didn’t. The fact that they had sex prior to marriage was probably what canceled the relationship. She’s been around, already used up. Nobody of any decency would want that. Time to get back to real reality folks – morals, values, abstinence. All things of the past in today’s society which is why it’s going to crap. But hey – Jake will eventually find someone he is compatible with, and so will the sausage girl – but her compatible person will have to be someone willing to wait on her every whim and kiss her butt – and let her be the “man” because it was obvious that if the world didn’t revolve around her, she wasn’t happy. YUK! Good riddance!

  • Jake_ass

    Jake is a piece of work, how many times can you tell someone that they interrupted? It was blatantly obvious that Jake was lying at times, many times he was just saying things to basically say something. I feel for her, what an idiot, all about himself.Tthats probably the least of the problems he has though!

  • Jake_ass

    Jake is a piece of work, how many times can you tell someone that they interrupted? It was blatantly obvious that Jake was lying at times, many times he was just saying things to basically say something. I feel for her, what an idiot, all about himself. Thats probably the least of the problems he has though!

  • Deb

    Have to agree with a lot of the posters here. I was anti-Vienna as the choice for Jake however, after last nights episode, Jake showed himself to be an emotionless, controlling and abusive jerk. He called her going to “sulk” as games except the fact that he obviously was hurting this girl meant nothing to him. Throwing the GPS cause she wanted to be sure of the directions? Seriously? Accusing of her second guessing his measuring in the bedroom. Is he infallible that he couldn’t have made a simple measurement mistake prior to putting the furniture in. With his complete lack of intimacy towards her and then saying there is more to a relationship than sex and intimacy….HELLO??? Without intimcacy (not even the sexual kind) there is no relationship. That he could turn it “on” for the cameas though shows what he’s really all about. Famewhore indeed. As for Vienna, his bashing her about how she “hates L.A.” but now has a job there as if she’s trying to get fame or latch on to him shows how stupid he is. She is apparently trying to make the best of the situation and build a new life where she is right now. I’m still no huge fan of Vienna’s however, I don’t blame her one bit for how she handled this situation. Jake’s fame needs to be over now.

  • Deb

    One more thing. Chris gave Jake the chance to redeem himself by asking if he felt bad. The only thing it seems Jake felt bad about was everyone having to witness one of their battles. I do believe Chris was referring to Vienna’s tears and obvious heartache but you missed that completely cause you’re too wrapped up in you and how you appear to people. What a horses patooty he is.

  • Reagan

    I watched Jake on the Bachelorette and the Bachelor, and I have to say, I really liked him at first. He seemed to possess an old-school charm and chivalry that in these times is rare and seems to be too good to be true. But a few episodes into the Bachelor, it became apparent that Jake was using this “perfect” cover to hide his many insecurities and flaws. It was obvious that he had control issues – just the way that he was constantly changing the rules on his show – sending extra women home, etc. proved that he expected to always have things his way and was resistant to following rules.

    I wasn’t a big fan of Vienna on the show, mainly because she didn’t seem to get along with any of the other girls and it was obvious that she was still very immature, which is understandable at only 23 years old. However, after watching the giant fight between Jake and Vienna last night, I think Jake made himself look very bad. To anyone with a heart or a brain, it was obvious that Vienna was telling the truth – you just can’t make up that kind of stuff on the spot. She had specific examples of everything she accused him of. When she asked him for the same courtesy, he was unable to give any. Yes, she did interrupt him, but I think in that kind of a situation where he is blatantly lying to her face just to make her look bad, anyone would do the same.

    Jake displayed ALL of the signs of an emotional abuser last night – he tried to blame the whole thing on Vienna, he allowed a 6 minute video of Vienna dancing in the same room with a man to serve as “proof” that she cheated on him, he did not accept ANY of the responsibility for the failure of the relationship, he is the one who is pursuing fame, yet he turned it around on her to make it look like this, too, was her fault. He didn’t have anything constructive to offer during this “talk”. He relied completely on low-blows and Chris Harrison to ask his demeaning questions. I was so disgusted by Jake after the show last night, and I hope this will be a warning to any women that had previously been interested in him. He will do the same to you. He will isolate you from your family and friends, and keep you at a distance to make you question your self-worth. He will try to control your whole life, and won’t take you seriously. Yet another example of his abuse – Vienna claimed that they broke up twice before. He minimized the experience and said that it was just Vienna “throwing a tantrum.”

    Despite Vienna’s young age, I’m happy that she was able to realize that it’s not okay for anyone to treat her that way, and that she left. Good for her. And I understand why she would sell her side of the story. We all know that Jake was going to do it if she hadn’t. It’s completely obvious, based on his past behavior. He’s just mad that she beat him to it. And if he wasn’t going to – well, that would have been a surprise to all of us, wouldn’t it?

    • Linda

      I couldn’t agree with you more!

  • Hockeygirl9296

    Wow was I dead wrong about Jake. I thought ohhhh nooo you are picking the wrong girl etc etc. I had hoped that Jake would see the light and he would break it off. OMG!!!! What a control freak not to mention you could just see him ready to explode with anger and then YES his true colors came out and he lost it!! I actually felt sorry for Vienna last night and thank god she ESCAPED. I am sure she is guilty of perhaps wanting a little of the Limelight but I have NO DOUBT he is an A**

  • Dee

    The bottom line is Vienna was too young and immature and most everyone thought Jake was making a big mistake picking her in the 1st place. That being said, anyone “other than my mother or father, when I still lived with them” who would tell me I was undermining them would immediately put up a big red flag for me!!! Are you kidding me?!!! My husband & I have been married for 30 yrs. and I would still try to rearrange the furniture, no matter how many times he had measured! Give me a break, as much as I didn’t care for Vienna I think I have to agree with her that perhaps Jake really does need someone he can control. The way I saw it last night after watching the show was…Vienna was acting like a typical 24 yr. old would and Jake was acting like he was her father!!!!

  • Dana

    Jake and Vienna each have substantial issues that would require a psychotherapist to help them address….but ONLY if they are willing.

    Vienna is high maintenance because she is very hysterical and over reactive and highly in need of 100% attention. Jake is in need of being perceived as the angel that he is not!

  • Sheri

    Jake is such a dush and the biggest FAke i’ve ever seen!!! Its so obvious what an emotional abusive person he is. Its really funny how he made himself look like an ass on naitonal tv by having a tantrum like a little girl!! He thinks he soooo Great but in all actuality he’s just looking out for himself. I cant wait till his 15 min of fame are up just to wipe that damn smirk off of his face!!!

  • millie

    Vienna – you talked too much and need to grow up!
    Jake – all those girls, your parents and most of the television viewing audience tried to tell you what you now know.
    Tenley – don’t answer the phone!!!

  • Charlotte

    For one of my papers toward my master’s degree, I studied this type of person. Jake has a personality disorder, called ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER. check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
    He is the kind of person who has no conscience, no remorse, no emotions. He uses people for his own narcissistic needs, and when they don’t comply, he becomes enraged. He is a classic example.
    The best thing that happened from this show is that a lot of people are becoming educated about what this kind of person really is like, a demonic being, because they saw with their own eyes how he has operated—smooth like silk and dark like Hell. These types of people are around us in society, the criminals, the serial murderers, the losers, but also the CEO’s of large corporations that wreak havoc on the world. They don’t care about anything except themselves, and will stop at nothing. They don’t feel. They don’t know what love is and they think people who care are weak—they laugh at normal people. They make you think you are the crazy one, until you appear to be—Vienna felt like she was losing her mind and expressed this by displaying utter frustration and being unable to get through to him. They are what we commonly call “EVIL”
    Vienna’s loss is the world’s gain in education. She will be blessed with true love, whereas Jake’s end will be much much less good. He will never be satisfied with anything he gets, and the more he gets, the worse he will behave. Hitler was one of these types—charming and persuasive, and “evil.” How else would he have gotten Germany convinced of his agenda?
    Whoever crosses Jake’s path is best advised to run and keep running in the opposite direction.

    • Gia

      I agree with this and wrote about his narcissistic, sociopathic like behavior before. There’s another even MORE FAMOUS celebrated media monster than Jake; one whom many people believe is a narcissist and or sociopath but I’ll leave it at that. For those who understand you’ll know the person I’m referring to.
      Thanks for the link btw!

      One thing I’d like to inject upon is when referring to “anti-social” personality disorder, the abbreviated acronym is AsPD or ASPD although “APD” has also been interchanged. Unfortunately this can be a problem for those who have been diagnosed with Avoidant Personality Disorder (not anything like anti-social, narcissistic; psychopathy) or with Auditory Processing Disorder (not at all a personality disorder).

      Using “APD” gives those with Avoidant Personality Disorder APD or A(v)PD a lot of problems since the alphabetical characters “APD” was also used for it and is appropriate to the name of the disorder itself. Since with Avoidant Personality Disorder (APD) – Social Anxiety/Phobia plays a large part in the “disordered” part, it can confuse people not looking very closely at the distinct meanings and differences of these seperate disorders.

      Once again, to be aware of the differences and to use what’s appropriate to its most original and material reference Anti-Social Personality Disorder is not Avoidant Personality Disorder.

      I’m tired and probably haven’t made a lot of sense with this one, lol. If you need more information on Avoidant Personality Disorder take a look at http://www.avoidantpersonality.com

  • Brenda

    I could not believe that this was aired..I guess anything in the name of ratings. If any of my family or friends were with a man like Jake, I would warn them immediately to get out. He is so so abusive and seemed to enjoyed every minute of his power over her. He needs a great deal of therapy to learn how to treat women. Never in my life have I seen such abuse. It was very alarming to witness this. She is so lucky to be rid of him. I pity the next girl. I am sure the past females have a lot to say about his sickness also. I hope he views this video with proper help so that he truly understands.

  • what ever

    Jake choose Vienna to get famous choosing the girl that most people hated.. got him lots of attention from the press..he got lots of doors that opened after the Bachelor,both of them loved the fame that the Bachelor put them through .He is the worst one that want the fame and now he has it he just dump and treat Vienna like a trash. If they really love each other they should work it out privately. coz the more public they are the more story will pop out.. Hope Ali will fine Love and not end up like Jake and Vienna relationship..

    LOVE ALI AND ROBERTO
    HOPE THEY WILL END UP TOGETHER
    AND BE HAPPY

  • http://yahoo ruth broggi

    jake and Ali will boost ratings when they attempt a reunion. I think it is a ploy that has been planned and it will be a blockbuster for everyone. rumors are Ali doesnt propose to anyone. Waiting for the next chapter of this phoney baloney show.

  • Linda

    What I see is a very immature Vienna who is used to getting her way (her father saying “she’s his princess”). Jake is a fool for picking her to begin with. How may women on the show tried to tell him about her? Duh. Did he think he could change her? On the show last night I didn’t think he acted abusive, but more frustrated because he could not get a word in edgewise! She did continually interrupt him and Chris Harrison did nothing! He should have been the one to tell Vienna to give Jake a chance and shut up! I think Jake acted like a gentleman by waiting for his turn to speak- only he never really got one. I’m not behind either one- Jake is a fool for picking her to begin with! Gia and Tenley were so much more classy and beautiful! I hope they don’t let Jake try to reach them now. He made his bed- now he needs to lie in it! For Vienna saying she hated LA and then gets a job to stay there, proves she’a a liar herself. I’m about done with these reality shows! All a big put-on!

  • Baileymom

    Lets all just face it, Jake made a bad decision in picking Vienna. They were never meant to be together and Vienna just needs to stop being a victim and move on. If Jake really is looking to break into show business then he should follow his dream.

  • Cassandra

    I was so mad watching Jake last night! We is a completely controlling abusive a**hole. Anyone could see how all he wanted to do was control her. I doubt her ever loved her at all. All he wanted was exactly like Vienna said. Someone to be the perfect little wife with no opinions about anything and would do exactly as he said. I am sure Vienna had her faults but are sure they are nothing compared to what he was with her. Give them a little while longer and I am sure the emotional abuse would have turned to physical. He has showed he has a bad temper. I say good for Vienna to make some money off this bad experience and to show the world what a complete shmuck Jake really is. He has showed to be completely two faced. Vienna is what she has always been.

  • DJ

    I was never a Vienna fan either but it was pretty clear last night that Jake has another side to him.I actually felt bad for her and had intense dislike for him.I’m sure this isn’t the last we’ve seen of these two.I hope that she can go on and live her life and I hope all women run far and fast from him but i’m sure we’ll be reading and writing about some poor victim that he sucked in in the future.

  • Monique

    I saw the interview. Anyone with any common sense could see that Jake was fake. He is GAY. Vienna is sexy. I admit she may have had some other ambition to get involved in the bacjelor but I beleive she tried to make it work. Last night she kept interrupting because she was full of genuine emotion. He is a male chauvanist faggot. Not like there is anything wrong with gays( I love them) but he should come out the closet. I hope Vienna will be okay. Jake should go get a guy who wants to be told what to do and not “undermine him”

  • OK LET’S SAY HE’S *NOT* GAY…..

    Let’s say Jake is not gay. Wouldn’t that then make him the most manipulative guy in the world and an otherwise pretty decent actor to be able to pull off all that “attraction” he had for Vienna in the beginning? Let’s say he’s sexually ambivalent instead. Another words, he’s attracted to women but stops just at the point where intimacy becomes “bond” between himself and the woman. He can only FAKE intimacy and project it, he can’t really feel it.

    If he’s sexually ambivalent it means it begins prior to any act that’s in a bedroom – it begins exactly where Vienna said it did…within the 2nd month, Jakes behavior changed radically. He did what he had to – to put on a show. He managed for a little longer afterwards but when the pressure became too much and his true colors began to show, he could no longer maintain that same projected rate of “attraction” he had for Vienna as before.

    Factor in that she at least in part is somewhat demanding. You can’t blame her for that…anyone expecting a relationship to grow would expect a deepening phase to naturalize but it wasn’t happening with Jake. He pulled back and instead became more distant, cold, selfish, argumentive.

    Back to sexual ambivalence. If the guy falls into the narcissist category, he has veins that run deep with insecurity so he always HAS to STAY in control. A guy that doesn’t feel good about himself outside of the bedroom is going to feel like a total loser inside of it. This is where a woman can make a guy feel even worse, not that this would be her intention but, Jake can’t handle NOT being in control. He gives up control if he allows Vienna or even himself to see his vulnerabilities and the act of lovemaking itself is terrifying. Lovemaking is the very essence of being vulnerable with the person you love and care for.

    It’s also used as a weapon against Vienna. It’s a form of punishment to keep her guessing and missing and needing and wanting and coming up feeling as crappy as he himself feels on the inside. He then sees her neediness as a turn off instead of seeing it as a cry for closeness to him.

    But it wasn’t really her ‘emotionalism’ that made him feel mad or frustrated, no it was her “underminding and not respecting” him that made him pull away and then it was that she was cheating on him, a convenient blaming excuse for a person who can never take responsibility because to do so means taking a real close look in the mirror at who Jake really is. And that will never fly – just like Jake who’ll likely hang his pilots hat up at least for a while.

    Vienna may be immature and agumentative. She may be annoying but every thing she said in answer to him and in between was that of a person who is rational and reasonable.

    Jake played a bad hand last night. He could have said he was very sorry that she felt he was emotionally unavailable or if he hurt her in anyway. He could have said she is in fact spoiled in certain ways but she has a good heart and he knows that. Instead, he was defensive, accusing and came off more immature and divisive than Vienna ever did.

    If he had said those things, how long would it have taken to get that out…you get more flies with honey and the opinion polls wouldn’t be against Jake now. So many people who thought Vienna was bad news now sees that in comparison it was actually Jake who behaves like a dirt-bag.

    It’s too bad Jake didn’t rightly perceive the situation. For one, Vienna is a fighter. He would have been better off with Tenley who was off the charts vulnerable and probably would have hung on for dear life with him. But he knew the public would totally believe Tenley over him and he’d look like the bad guy for sure.

    Vienna on the other hand nobody liked much. He could blame her for it. But like narcissists do, they often error and make mistakes in the most obvious of ways by overestimating their reputations. They go for the easiest explanation except that someone like Vienna wasn’t going to go quietly and she got while the going was GOOD, at least to the extent that she could come away with SOMETHING, RATHER THAN NOTHING. In this way Vienna totally trumped Jake. He knows it and everyone else does too.

    We all know that Vienna going to the press raises eyebrows but so what? Should she not get something out of a situation where for all intents and purpose a show like Bachelorette/Bachelor makes millions? They put a guy on a show who wasn’t interested in true love and marriage. He was interested in everything else but.

    Regardless of Vienna’s past, we believed that she did in fact love Jake. Last night we saw a young woman give a passionate rebuttal to a cold cold hearted weak knee’d Jake. It was probably all he could do to NOT strike her. Ambivalent insecure are known to have volitile responses. I know, I know someone who has similiar issues to Jake though not to the degree of “controlling” every little thing.
    BTW, I didn’t think it was wrong of him to say “don’t interrupt me” given the fact that at that point that’s all she was doing. But we know why she was doing it and we felt for her…she couldn’t stop herself, she’d had enough. Jake, well, it’s about all he could muster because he couldn’t even lie about having compassion for her. He was so pissed that she dare defy so he had to try to “shame” her with accusations of cheating.

    Vienna outplayed Jake. She has a job, she’s going to make the best of a situation. She was paid to give her side of the story and there will be plenty of others “opportunities” that come her way. Jake on the other hand may be offered a few things, but 80 percent of the public sees him as a conniving weirdo and now, possibly a gay one.

    If Jake is gay so what. It’s the dual-behavior that went on and the way going about fame that people really don’t like to tolerate deceit. If he’s gay but will never admit to it, he’ll find the next ‘wannebe wife of Jake’ to marry and that will be the “proof” he wants to show the world…see, I’m not gay! Within a year of the marriage, there will be a divorce and more rumors of Jakes “ambivalence”. . .

    What Jake didn’t count on was the public turning against him. Not because we wanted to. No, I saw him in the first Bachelorette with Jillian and thought, wow, what a guy. Later half way through this bachelor I saw the same man but a different Jake. There was ego, there was abrupt tensions that came from out of nowhere. He was eager to paint himself to the camera anyway as ‘loving’, falling in love, etc blah, ad nauseum.

    If only Jake would seek therapeutic intervention for himself. But most people with this kind of psychopathy will never do that. They’ll always be more comfortable with the projected image they want others to see than what is real. I wonder if something in Jakes childhood made Jake this way or if there’s actually a genetic component. I bet there’s quite the hornets nest up in his families’ attic . . .

    • Linda

      Makes complete sense to me. Good read.

  • Bailey

    Most of these people are attractive, educated, and cannot find love on their own? this show screams losers… a guy with all jake has to offer and he cannot find a woman? He is a pilot, plenty of down time, there has to be something missing in his self esteem. Vienna seemed to be a level headed young lady,who has had problem finding a man, along with the 24 other women. Some women and me have proved to america why they are single.
    It is time to find more wholesome television, I am so glad I don’t have to deal with a young child that would sing via viagra because of the commercial.

  • Michelle

    Listen, I’ve been in a truly abusive relationship. Jake was angry, but I highly doubt there is abuse. Vienna is just a little princess that’s used to being taken care of — she still lived at home if you remember the hometown visits. I’m sure it drove him nuts to have her sit around his apartment all day with no ambition of her own. Remember she complained about how he kept telling her to get a job. There was simply no respect there, no wonder he didn’t want to touch her. They simply brought out the worst in each other and a split was the right thing to do. A true soul mate brings out the best in you by inspiring you to live from the heart.

    • Linda

      I, too, have been in an abusive relationship, and it started out the same way as Jake and Vienna’s. If you couldn’t see that he wanted to smack Vienna on that couch, you need to get your eyes checked, Michelle.

  • Olivia

    Jake is such a looser! Vienna is better off without him. Don’t worry Vienna there is more fish in the sea.

  • tinaj

    I used to be completely in love with Jake. I honestly could not believe how perfect of a man he was. Well needless to say I was wrong. I didn’t like Vienna from the start ‘cuz I thought she was too immature and thought life was a fairytale. I thought the other girls were so mean to her though and that she was as polite as any girl could be given the situation.

    From last night’s interview, it was CLEAR that Jake is a JERK. He is so manipulative and it is obvious that HE is the one that UNDERMINES her. He has anger problems if he is throwing the GPS for such a little situation as that. He also tries to control her and manipulates her statements. After VIENNA broke up with him, Jake just uses the idea that Vienna cheated so that he looks more like the victim. He KNOWS America didn’t like Vienna, and he thought that everyone would believe him. He is also very smart and tactful in his approach, he was quiet and after Vienna blew up and left he said “see this is it right here” He compltely used her emotions against her. He is such a FAKE. I’m sorry I ever believed him.I think Ali sees it too and that i swhy she is no longer interested in Jake. JAKE you had AMERICA fooled, but fools we are no more!!

  • http://Vienna&Jake Shalt

    I never watch this show, but what type people would put there emotional problems out to the general pubic?

    It’s all about HAP and people fall over themself to read about. They were never involved each with other in the first place, but it makes for good TV and rating.

    Viennia and Jake want to be STARS, you know like those Kardashian sister who don’t do anything. but you see there face every where!!

  • http://aim.com Ali

    I agree with Linda, Jake was horrible. The grin he had on his face the whole time even while Vienna was crying. If he cared at all he would have at least acknowledged the fact that she was upset. He tried to look calm the whole time to make it look like he was telling the truth but it just made him look like a jerk. Vienna was the only one who got emotional and you could tell how hurt she was. Jake is so easily read and anyone who couldn’t see how much of a phony jerk he really is, needs to get out more.

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